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GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

Discussion dans '1.9L (4 cylindres)' créé par laurenzo44, 19 Janvier 2013.

  1. Bonjour à tous

    Voilà, tout d abord la voiture Audi A6 1.9TDI 110cv 248000km. Vanne EGR Supprimé.

    En Octobre j' ai démonté mon turbo pour le nettoyer car la GV était grippé, même bien grippé, en même temps il avait 242000km.

    Aujourd hui il a 248000km et depuis 15 jours rebelotte coupure moteur qui disparesse des que je coupe le contact.
    Donc j ai commandé et changé ma N75 ce matin, ainsi que la plus part des durites de dépression.

    Je pars tester tout ça, je laisse le moteur chauffer, le moteur est chaud alors j'attaque en 3eme a 1500tr jusqu a 3000tr puis à 3100, coupure, et *****.......
    Je coupe le moteur, je rallume et j attaque debout sur la pédale et la impeccable jusqu a 4500tr en 3eme puis 4200tr en 4eme, niquel.

    Par soucie, arriver a la maison je passe un coup de scan et la Default:

    Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No: 038 906 012 AB
    Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 2821
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 02325
    VCID: 50A56E9990F8129

    1 Fault Found:
    17965 - Charge Pressure Control
    P1557 - 35-00 - Positive Deviation
    Readiness: N/A



    Rrrrrrr La N75 est neuve, les durites sont neuve le turbo est néttoyé depuis 6000km.

    Je supprime le Default et je vais tester manuelement ma GV et la ......... CATA elle ne bouge que de 2 ou 3mm,
    j'en conclu que ma GV est REgrippé.

    Mais pourquoi??? et comment c'est possible en si peu de temps???

    Alors j'ai mon idée, la N75 fonctionnai mal et n activai pas correctement la Gv donc elle a grippé.
    Penez vous que je sois obligé de le REDEMONTER ou est ce que en tirant les rapport ca va passer ou est ce que l utilisation d'un produit pourrait m aider???

    Par avance merci les zamis
    _____
    Voiture concernée : Audi a6 - afn - 1.9L TDI
     
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  3. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Bon je viens d aller faire un tour, avec coupure moteur voici le LOG réalisé:

    Saturday,19,January,2013,15:07:39:32264,VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3,Data version: 20120401
    038 906 012 AB,,1.9l R4 EDC 0000SG 2821,

    ,Group A:,'003,,,,Group B:,'010,,,,Group C:,'011
    ,,RPM,Mass Air / Rev.,Mass Air / Rev.,Duty Cycle,,Mass Air / Rev.,Absolute Pres.,Absolute Pres.,Load,,RPM,Absolute Pres.,Absolute Pres.,Duty Cycle
    ,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
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    ,103.41,1344,580.0,465.0,35.1,103.74,535.0,948.6,1050.6,28.2,103.06,1029,1111.8,989.4,24.7
    ,104.38,1806,640.0,635.0,21.1,104.70,690.0,948.6,1428.0,38.8,104.06,1533,1428.0,1132.2,25.5
    ,105.38,2478,250.0,735.0,74.1,105.75,570.0,948.6,1417.8,0.0,105.02,2394,1519.8,1672.8,60.6
    ,106.43,1176,485.0,445.0,46.6,106.74,545.0,948.6,1091.4,17.6,106.11,1386,1060.8,1213.8,35.1
    ,107.38,1575,475.0,575.0,69.3,107.74,600.0,948.6,1224.0,19.2,107.06,1533,1162.8,1142.4,35.5
    ,108.47,1680,490.0,650.0,79.7,108.81,655.0,948.6,1346.4,22.4,108.11,1638,1183.2,1264.8,44.6
    ,109.45,1890,535.0,655.0,79.7,109.78,660.0,948.6,1407.6,27.5,109.13,1827,1254.6,1387.2,52.6
    ,110.42,2142,610.0,660.0,78.5,110.78,685.0,948.6,1489.2,35.3,110.10,2058,1305.6,1407.6,58.6
    ,111.49,2583,850.0,915.0,4.8,111.81,1010.0,948.6,2193.0,100.0,111.15,2415,1774.8,1591.2,51.4
    ,112.45,3024,255.0,960.0,4.8,112.78,615.0,948.6,1774.8,0.0,112.14,2982,1948.2,2335.8,80.1
    ,113.49,2100,475.0,585.0,44.6,113.85,595.0,948.6,1295.4,22.7,113.14,1848,1101.6,1397.4,39.4
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    ,115.48,2037,255.0,520.0,79.7,115.80,515.0,948.6,1111.8,11.0,115.15,2037,1142.4,1162.8,43.0
    ,116.51,2037,345.0,525.0,79.7,116.86,550.0,948.6,1142.4,17.6,116.14,2037,1142.4,1111.8,43.0
    ,117.51,2058,380.0,565.0,79.7,117.83,570.0,948.6,1203.6,18.4,117.20,2058,1203.6,1173.0,42.2
    ,118.49,2100,410.0,580.0,79.7,118.84,585.0,948.6,1254.6,19.6,118.15,2079,1234.2,1224.0,46.2
    ,119.56,2142,375.0,575.0,79.7,119.90,570.0,948.6,1244.4,16.9,119.20,2121,1213.8,1254.6,49.0
    ,120.55,2163,360.0,575.0,79.7,120.89,570.0,948.6,1234.2,14.5,120.23,2163,1203.6,1244.4,49.0
    ,121.58,2163,330.0,555.0,79.7,121.94,555.0,948.6,1193.4,14.1,121.21,2163,1173.0,1224.0,45.4
    ,122.60,2142,330.0,555.0,79.7,122.93,555.0,948.6,1183.2,13.7,122.28,2142,1183.2,1193.4,45.4
    ,123.58,2121,250.0,540.0,79.7,123.93,500.0,948.6,1122.0,0.0,123.26,2121,1162.8,1183.2,44.6
    ,124.64,2058,250.0,495.0,4.8,124.98,495.0,948.6,1071.0,0.0,124.28,2079,1132.2,1101.6,41.8
    ,125.61,1974,250.0,495.0,4.8,125.93,495.0,948.6,1060.8,0.0,125.29,1995,1132.2,1060.8,40.2
    ,126.60,1827,250.0,495.0,4.8,126.96,495.0,948.6,1050.6,0.0,126.25,1890,1111.8,1050.6,38.6
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    ,128.57,861,295.0,425.0,79.7,128.91,425.0,948.6,1009.8,0.0,128.25,882,1060.8,1030.2,24.7
    ,129.62,1470,250.0,440.0,4.8,129.97,480.0,948.6,999.6,9.0,129.26,987,1060.8,999.6,24.7
    ,130.61,1407,425.0,520.0,74.9,130.93,515.0,948.6,1091.4,17.3,130.29,1323,1122.0,1040.4,36.7
    ,131.59,1449,485.0,540.0,79.7,131.94,570.0,948.6,1162.8,19.2,131.25,1428,1142.4,1111.8,33.9
    ,132.66,1554,510.0,600.0,79.7,132.97,625.0,948.6,1264.8,26.7,132.30,1512,1173.0,1193.4,37.9
    ,133.61,1827,880.0,730.0,4.8,133.93,825.0,948.6,1672.8,63.1,133.29,1722,1407.6,1336.2,38.3
    ,134.64,2352,850.0,1005.0,4.8,134.99,1025.0,948.6,2295.0,100.0,134.28,2163,1948.2,1958.4,59.4
    ,135.63,2961,850.0,1025.0,4.8,135.95,1005.0,948.6,2397.0,63.9,135.31,2772,1948.2,2346.0,82.5
    ,136.59,2310,250.0,595.0,4.8,136.94,560.0,948.6,1346.4,0.0,136.27,2940,1173.0,2254.2,43.4
    ,137.66,1512,250.0,465.0,4.8,138.00,510.0,948.6,1101.6,0.0,137.30,1218,1060.8,1193.4,33.1
    ,138.65,1848,250.0,515.0,79.7,138.97,545.0,948.6,1152.6,16.5,138.33,1848,1101.6,1122.0,38.3
    ,139.66,1827,635.0,640.0,76.9,140.02,755.0,948.6,1489.2,89.4,139.29,1827,1203.6,1213.8,42.6
    ,140.69,2016,850.0,965.0,4.8,141.01,965.0,948.6,2203.2,100.0,140.37,1953,1948.2,1764.6,45.8
    ,141.65,2247,850.0,985.0,4.8,142.02,1010.0,948.6,2264.4,100.0,141.33,2184,1948.2,2203.2,70.5
    ,142.74,2478,850.0,1020.0,4.8,143.08,1055.0,948.6,2366.4,100.0,142.38,2394,1948.2,2305.2,82.1
    ,143.71,2688,850.0,1045.0,4.8,144.03,685.0,948.6,2244.0,0.0,143.39,2625,1948.2,2386.8,94.4
    ,144.72,1365,250.0,530.0,4.8,145.08,440.0,948.6,1183.2,16.5,144.36,1911,1132.2,1611.6,41.8
    ,145.75,1806,465.0,630.0,71.3,146.07,650.0,948.6,1377.0,22.4,145.42,1806,1193.4,1183.2,40.2
    ,146.71,1827,465.0,660.0,79.7,147.05,635.0,948.6,1417.8,18.4,146.39,1806,1244.4,1428.0,54.6
    ,147.76,1827,320.0,575.0,79.7,148.12,545.0,948.6,1203.6,13.3,147.42,1827,1173.0,1336.2,54.6
    ,148.77,1806,290.0,535.0,79.7,149.09,520.0,948.6,1132.2,11.4,148.46,1827,1111.8,1173.0,41.0
    ,149.74,1806,255.0,515.0,79.7,150.12,500.0,948.6,1101.6,9.0,149.41,1806,1091.4,1122.0,40.2
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    Merci d avance
     
  4. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    RE

    Comment expliquer, que le moteur coupe et lorsque je coupe le contact et je redemare elle retrouve ces 110cv ???

    Je m arrache les cheveux ..........

    HELPPPP
     
  5. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    salut

    Le calculateur moteur se met en safe c'est a dire il coupe la puissance pour protéger le turbo en quelque sorte.
    Quand tu as la coupure de puissance , tu as le défaut PRESSION de suralimentation trop elevé ,
    Le fait de couper le contact , fait passer ce défaut en sporadique et donc tu retrouve ta puissance jusqu'a la prochaine pression trop elevé
     
  6. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Ok mais pourquoi ce met il en safe ???

    Merci
     
  7. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Comment as tu neTtoyer la geométrie variable ?
     
  8. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Je l ai démonté entierrement et nettoyé niquel de chez niquel elle etait vraiment tres calaminé.

    Ca a fonctionné super bien pendant 6000km et la rebelotte.

    Quand j active la gv a la main elle ne bouge que de 5mm max.

    Que penser de mon LOG ????

    merci
     
  9. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    alors dépose la wastegate (capsule pneumatique qui commande la geométrie variable) et la tu pourra vraiment bien juger si c'est bloqué ou des points dur
     
  10. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Demonter le wastegate, pour ca il faut que je sorte le turbo complet et j avoue, c est ma derniere solution.

    Mais pourquoi ca fonctionne 7 fois sur 10 ?? C'est pour ca que je comprend pas
     
  11. lolo-63130

    lolo-63130 Modérateur

    Marque:
    Autre
    Modèle:
    ALFA 147
    Date:
    03/2008
    Kilométrage:
    135000
    Code Moteur:
    JTDM
    Puissance:
    120
    Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Bonsoir ca ce voit clairement sur le log que la géometrie variable ne fonctionne pas sur toute ca couse et quelle est grippée tu est en surpression de 0.5 bars avec un calculateur qui ne peut plus réguler , pour que le problème ce reproduise aussi tôt il y'a plusieurs causes , le mécanisme a était remonter sans être serrer au couple , le mécanisme ( plateau , aubes , couronnes ) on trop de jeu a fil des kilométres la suie s'accumule le mécanisme ayant plus de jeu vient bloquer plus facilement . J'ai eu pareil sur mon turbo mais moi au bout de même pas 1000 kms , je l'ai redémonter puis serrer au couple et pas de probléme .
     
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  13. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Intéressant comme idée.

    Pourrais tu me donner les couples de serrages STP, car je reconnais avoir serré sans les couples.

    Rrrrr je voulais éviter de re-demonter une nouvelle fois, car 5 heures de travail à 0°c ca va etre dur dur.

    Ca pourrais pas venir de la sonde qui est sur l admission la G??

    Merci
     
  14. lolo-63130

    lolo-63130 Modérateur

    Marque:
    Autre
    Modèle:
    ALFA 147
    Date:
    03/2008
    Kilométrage:
    135000
    Code Moteur:
    JTDM
    Puissance:
    120
    Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    La sonde de pression de turbo n'a rien avoir dedans puisqu'on voit quelle fonctionne correctement , pour le nettoyage il faut vraiment que tout soit nettoyer parfaitement ne pas hésiter a poncer fin le plateau qui est démontable ( celui ou on voit les trace de frottement) . Ce que je conseil aussi de temps en temps par exemple 1 fois par mois :

    Faire tourner le moteur au ralenti qui soit chaud , brancher Vagcom , aller dans le calculateur moteur , puis dans les blocs de mesure , puis canal 011 et cliquer sur " switch to basic setting " et laisser Vagcom travailler par
    exemple 1 minute . Cela permet a la géométrie variable d'aller de butée mini a butée maxi ce qui est impossible a faire en roulant .

    - Vis Torx de maintien du plateau de GV : ........3 N.m.. (0.3 daN.m)
    - Vis de maintien du carter d'échappement : .15 N.m ..(1,5 daN.m)
    - Vis de maintien du carter d'admission : .........5 N.m ..(0,5 daN.m)
    - Vis de maintien de l’actuateur sur support : ..8 N.m . (0,8 daN.m)
     
  15. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Merci LOLO tu es un Chef.

    Bon je pense pas faire ça demain mais peut etre le week prochain on verra...

    Sinon est ce qu un échange standard ne serait pas une option plus judicieuse???

    Le turbo est d origine 248000km, je sais que 110ch pour une a6 c est tres, trop juste, peut etre a t il souffert??

    Ou est ce qu il peut repartir pour un tour apres un nettoyage en regle et surtout un remontage au couple??

    Ps: pour info, j avais démonté le turbo, mais ouvert uniquement la partie chaude et nettoyer toute cette partie jusqu a obtenir des pièces en mouvement totalement libre. J'avais réellement récupéré un turbo au performance d origine. Seul bémole, au remontage, j'ai du me reprendre à plusieur fois car lorsque je revissais les 3 vises du bloc ou sorte les gaz, ça bloquai ma commande de GV, apres de multiple essaie j'ai trouvé la bonne position, puis refermé et tout etait super fonctionnel.
     
  16. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Il reste quelque chose que je comprend pas.

    Pouquoi si la GV est grippé (et elle l est j en suis sur), pourquoi le probleme n est pas permanent???
    Comment ça ce fait quepar moment j ai mes 110cv ???

    Merci
     
  17. lolo-63130

    lolo-63130 Modérateur

    Marque:
    Autre
    Modèle:
    ALFA 147
    Date:
    03/2008
    Kilométrage:
    135000
    Code Moteur:
    JTDM
    Puissance:
    120
    Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Le grippage et permanent simplement la pression est gére par une cartographie donc dans certain cas l’électronique corrige le tir , ou le régime moteur n'est pas trop haut ou la surpression n'est pas assez élevée ou ne dure pas assez longtemps . Pour le turbo il peut trés bien repartir pour le double comme refaire pareil chaque turbo ne réagit pas pareil . Pour l’échange standard il faut voir l’écart de prix avec du neuf car il est préférable de repartir sur du neuf , attention a la provenance du turbo ( site d'achat) car il y'a de tout de bon turbo comme des daubes Chinoises .
     
  18. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Je vais le redemonter et nettoyer juste la partie chaude et on verra.

    Concernant l échange standard j ai pue remarquer une économie de 400 euros environ.
    Je ne regarde que les entreprises avec pignon sur rue et qui garantisse 1 an sans kilométrage max le turbo.
     
  19. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Non démonter la wastegate n'engendre pas la dépose du turbo il ya de vis de 10 a déviser et le clips de la gemotrie variable .

    Tu es bon dans tous les cas pour déposer le turbo , et suivre les indications de lolo-63130
     
  20. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Slt caramail12, je ne vois pas comment faire pour enlever les vis et le clis sans tout démonter ???

    Peux tu m en dire plus stp, merci.
     
  21. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Il suffit que ta plaque d'isolation entre la partie chaude et la GV soit un peu usée, pour que les gaz partent dans la commande de la GV.
     
  22. Re : GV encore Grippé !!!!!!!

    Slt Qu!ck, oui c est une hypotese, mais ça serait un defaut permanent??
     

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